Tim Spall Interview
These short interviews with the cast were done for Series 4
of Auf Wiedersehen, Pet. Tim Spall talks about Series 4 and a
short bit about how Pet changed his life. The following is
copyright of the BBC.
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copyright BBC & awpet.com.
“I'm a bit ambivalent
about Barry to be honest,"
admits Timothy Spall.
"I love playing the character
and I'm deeply proud that
he's so popular, but he's a
bit of a nuisance to
me."When we first started I
was perceived as being like
Barry so I have a very odd relationship with him. It really is
a love/hate thing. I feel like I'm killing myself when I do him
and I can feel all the qualities of a class A1 pillock rising up
in me! I really love him but I'd also like to strangle him."
But writers Dick and Ian turned him on his head for the
last series. They made him rich, which was a very clever
thing to do as he's the last guy you'd expect to finally make
some money and something of himself. "It's deepened him
- not that he was two-dimensional before – but now he's
more than just the butt of the jokes. This time he has a
much more emotional story to go through."When the
series starts Barry is reluctant to go to Cuba. He's trying to
patch up his life after the lovely Tatiana deceived and left
him. He's a broken man. "And there is a big question mark
over his finances which were all tied up in bent money
(although he didn't know anything about it). And his
wonderful house now has subsidence as the earthquake in
Dudley hit it. So he's buggered. "He's in therapy and he
thinks that it's doing him a hell of a lot of good. He's seeing
a nice woman in Solihull who is keeping him sane. But
eventually he decides to team up with the boys again
because Oz and Dennis convince him that they're his
family and it's all he's got left.
"Barry might be back in the bosom of his friends but he
can't cut the ties to his Solihull-based therapist. "While he's
in Cuba he's always on the phone to Solihull which is
costing him a fortune! "But he soon gets settled in and
back in situ sharing a room with Oz. They've always had an
odd friendship: they're so different but they have an
affection for each other. "Oz has fallen in love for the first
time in his life and he's finding it difficult. So Barry and Oz
start counselling each other. They're two guys just trying to
deal with their problems in these peculiar and slightly mad
therapy sessions! But they do help each other.
"Like the other members of cast, Tim admits that the real
magic of the series is in the writing. "There are more layers
to the characters now, which makes the comedy more
funny and poignant. It's laced with a bittersweet quality.
"All of them have in common an incongruous decency and
loyalty. In normal circumstances they probably wouldn't
have been friends, but they were brought together by
adversity in the beginning and they are always in extremis,
which pulls them together. "It's about ordinary guys and
how they behave in an environment they're not used to.
"I believe that's the skill of Dick and Ian's writing. They tap
into the great sense of the ridiculous of life. Only in a
Clement and La Frenais script would you get characters
who for extra mural activities end up going to guinea pig
roulette! They manage to find the true lunacy of life.
"Having just spent months filming with Richard Dreyfuss,
Tim was better prepared than some for the rigours of
filming in the jungle. "I'd never been to the Dominican
Republic but I was in French Guyana (near Venezuela)
whilst filming The Old Man Who Reads Love Stories with
Richard and we did a lot of filming in the jungle so I had a
feeling of what it might be like. "French Guyana is a really
bizarre place – it's ruled from Paris and they even have
their own Euro MP.
"But the Dominican Republic is an amazing mixture of the
Caribbean and America. In Santo Domingo you can be on
one street that is fairly run-down and looks like Russia, but
then turn the corner and you're in a huge mall like those in
the middle of LA. "Then there's the fourteenth century
centre. Christopher Columbus' house is still there and it's
full of beautiful, colonial-style buildings. It's fascinating.
"And bloody hot. It was a 100 degrees with 99% humidity!
But that's all part of the deal. These characters are from a
northern European country and the island works its magic
on them. They get involved in the flow and life of the place.
"We were shooting in some really rural places – passing
through and filming in real shanty towns. But the people
have never seen a film unit before. They were totally
fascinated and, once they'd realised that we weren't doing
anything sinister, they really got into it. "Some of the crew
stayed for a drink one evening and had a fantastic time
with them. "But in the beginning Timothy Spall - acclaimed
character actor and OBE - almost signed up for the army
rather than heading to drama school.
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